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AI Art Problems From A Painter's Perspective | Why Modern Art Sucks
Published 7 Feb 2023
The main problems with AI generated Art from a painter's perspective. Why AI art falls sucks when trying to make paintings. Is AI art going to take your job? What makes painters distinguishable from AI Art. How to take advantage of the AI art trend. To buy the same linen and oil ground prepared linen I use: https://www.kitschmeister.com/ canvas-1 For in depth lessons about kitsch painting and 1-on-1 learning with me: https:// www.patreon.com/nicthurman Donate to support the channel: https://www.nicthurman.com/ donate Join my newsletter for free live demos and more: https:// www.nicthurman.com/newsletter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nic.thurman Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ nic.thurman
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What is more likely is that as ai art reaches the point where it can perfectly replicate abstract art and photorealistic art alike people will continue to appreciate paintings but that it wont reach very much farther than "wow a human being was actually capable of painting something so real that it looks like it could've been made by a camera or ai program." It is kinda like the way in which we are amazed that an elephant or a monkey can pick up a paintbrush and use it just like humans do, except now we are placing the machine on a pedestal higher than us as something to be considered the ideal that only the rare genius could ever possibly be capable of reaching. This is what really frightens me as a painter. How people in competition with the machine will strive towards the ideal of the machine. The most successful will be the biggest failures because they will be the ones who most completely have metamorphosed into machines. ... 20
It's all sequential for the AI while an actual artists creates in parallels. ... 4
First: I'm deeply worried and euphoric at the same time...
Most AI critics overlook that Artists are very different....6 years ago I discovered that painting 3d brushstrokes in an immersive 3d world (in other words: painting in VR) is much more challenge & FUN as panting traditional on a 2d canvas....I was painting in Acrylics for 42 years and I never made digital art on a PC. I used to only be able to draw snippets of the worlds in my head, but now I can create entire worlds in VR... So now I am using an AI Generator for my VR worlds and I love it! (I only use the free, open source and local Stable Diffusion). I can generate endless Textures, based on my own art in an amazing quality and speed. Anyway if you want to realize a complex vision in a sophisticated concept, you will have a long workflow even with AI. Yes: For "A cat in golden armor in the style of Rembrandt" 1 click is enough and I agree that this cannot be satisfying for creative people. After all, we have to "let it out" of ourselves....
. also think that the value of a handmade work of art will rise.
BTW: What is realy worring me is the fast developing brain wave decoding, by AI controlling technology. They allready use it in China to control workers and students.
In any case, humanity should take a close look at how AIs are developing in different areas. It's happening now!
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I have long wished to transfer my thoughts to canvas but after 60 years of trying I still lack the ability to create something that even a kindergarten child would be proud of, I simply cannot do it.
Now when it comes to expressing myself in words, bingo! And this is exactly where AI art is a godsend, I can re-phrase time and time again until the AI engine produces something I am truly proud of, it's unique and it's crafted of my mind. I've created thousands of images this way and not only has the process given me immense pleasure, but it has allowed me to plunge into the depths of my own mind to produce images that I can't go out and buy, haven't infringed anybody else's copyright or intellectual property with and have allowed me to experience some of the pleasure that artists enjoy in the generation of their own artworks.
Not everybody is out to rip off artists, and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people that utilise AI as I have and have been equally enthralled but what it has allowed them to do - young or old! ...
Plus...the human mind can understand context much better than AI.
For example f I prompt an artist and an AI " Portrait of a young woman, PG18" the chance of the artist using actual viridian green in their painting is much higher than the AI using the right shade of green when generating the image instead of just painting an undressed figure.
I personally think it is concerning if there's to much of media not made without a human mind involved in the end product. because for me art of any kind (music, painting, sequential art, literature) isn't just about the content of the piece it is about the many creative decisions made in the process. why I choose this brush over another, why I choose this canvas, this canvas layout, these colours, do I work in many layer or do I decide to paint the subject alla prima, why did I chose this brushwork in this area of the painting instead another...AI takes those decisions away and with that the responsibility an artist has for their product.
which is important because in my opinion artists does have a duty with their craft to document the world inside and outside from their perspective. taking away this aspect of responsibility makes the images empty.
if I ask someone that prompted an AI why there's this specific shade of red in their piece or what's the exact thought process for painting exactly this hand pose, there's nothing behind it. Because they didn't make any decisions... their mind is just empty in that regard because they let something else do the mental work of deciding on the right way to paint something. ...
I agree with all the points you made in the video. I don't think this AI thing is a threat, non-artist people have a very basic surface level understand of art. Most of this AI generated content has no actual use, just pretty noise to look at that falls apart when you take a close look as you said in the video. ... 6
A lot problems you mentioned with AI art (hands, extra limbs, etc.) will likely be resolved eventually and you can even get pretty consistently good results with the right prompts even now. Basically, its not there yet, but its getting there. Wherever AI art goes, I don't think traditional artists actually have that much to worry about. That said, a lot of people who make digital art will need to find a way to adapt.
Concerning the jobs issue. With every technological revolution jobs are lost; however, new jobs are created as well. I think (and hope) everything balances itself out once the dust settles. ... 2
I know Ai is scary in all for me a little, but its a computer that is learning. I dont like its going to take over the internet even though its just a computer learning (It helps). I know all people makes this joke all the time. Ai scares me when generate stuff, but I dont think it can do that like taking over your jobs ,your life, your social media, or etc. I dont hate AI, it scares me sometimes, but I just think its a tool. I dont see it as art. ...
Can you imagine the Sistine Chapel covered with an AI wrap? 5
In the very close future, AI will create ideas, soundbites, language that will integrate with everyday human culture and sway the movement of people in the way they think and communicate... and art/images will be just another tool in it's aid of doing that. By the way, all of this AI stuff is in it's infancy - a brief moment in it's awakening. Also why stop with human imitation? Why not have an AI analyze thousands of hours of dolphin recordings, images, and videos to understand it's language and behavior? Why stop at any point at all, just keep going and going and going. ... 1
As someone that has some experience in regards to programming and know how it works, I can assure you that it will never be able to learn squat. The problem is that programming is based on man made algorithms or mathematic equations set up in systems that try to get a program to do X when Y occurs. So an AI art program will most likely be coded to input a face in it's database that looks similar to the one in the original scene and work off a set of man made modifiers programmed into the program.
But the program(s) itself it has no consciousness, intelligence, nor the ability to learn in the traditional sense of the word. It's just a set of man made algorithms and functions making selections and composites based off of code some guy or a team of people made up and programmed into a piece of software. A lot of people don't realize it but programs will never have true intelligence because code has severe limitations. ...
The process doesn't end on the first prompt, but after hours (and thousands) of iterations, editing, photoshopping, iterating more, manually overdrawing, iterating, and manual painting over the printing. ... 1